It's a wife swap contestant coming home by the way.
LMAO!!!!!!!
This is the only thing a person has to do in order to maintain their faith in the invisable man in the sky. Sink your head into the sand and plug your ears.
Saturday, November 29, 2008
Welcome to the face of Religion!
The tyranny of scripture
I love Pat.
Here's a humorous video response to this.
“We don’t need scripture to keep humanity in chains”
Glad that you're keeping humanity in chains there buddy. Actually you do need scripture. It’s what religion is based on. It’s the foundation of belief in “the one true god.” with out scripture you have no why. Why should be believe in "the one true god with out a reason other than you say so?
You go on by posing the question of: what more do I need to base reality on than scripture?
Odd observation because you just said that you don't need scripture but I’d honestly agree with you accept for one thing… Scripture is not biased in reality. Scripture is a collection of stories, stolen from many different more ancient faiths across the expanse of human history in order promote the belief in “the one true god.”
You continue by assaulting Atheistic “belief” saying “… their basis (referring to a preacher on Sunday morning) is a book, where’s your basis Pat?… Science? … Science doesn’t pertain itself to philosophy in this sense.”
Gotta stop ya there buddy. Science is based on what we as humans can hear touch taste smell and see. It’s based on our observations of reality and existence, as we know it. This lends to perceptions of reality and philosophy is based on individual perceptions of reality and how things are. The book you refer to as the basis of your beliefs is based in fantasy and legend not reality Therefore the concept of basing reality on that book, which is a work of fiction, is fundamentally flawed.
As far as your point of saying the atheists mock the believers and all the believers do is reach out with a message of love hope and peace.
Sorry man all I’ve ever experienced from believers are just the words, “peace love and hope to the entire world” with the underlying tone of if you don’t believe what I believe you’re going to go to hell. It’s a major founding pricipal of the Christian church. It may not be what the “good preachers” are advocating but it’s still the founding principal of Christianity being the “one true” path to god and heaven. So there goes you’re credibility and compassion of preaching love hope and peace to all. Now what do you have?
After that honestly i got bored countering your arguments. The rest of the video portrays you as the victim of an atheist attack saying how dare you contradict my unshakable and unquestioned faith. I think my previous point puts it out there as to why atheists feel justified in "attacking" your religion. It's an insult to humanity.
Here's a humorous video response to this.
“We don’t need scripture to keep humanity in chains”
Glad that you're keeping humanity in chains there buddy. Actually you do need scripture. It’s what religion is based on. It’s the foundation of belief in “the one true god.” with out scripture you have no why. Why should be believe in "the one true god with out a reason other than you say so?
You go on by posing the question of: what more do I need to base reality on than scripture?
Odd observation because you just said that you don't need scripture but I’d honestly agree with you accept for one thing… Scripture is not biased in reality. Scripture is a collection of stories, stolen from many different more ancient faiths across the expanse of human history in order promote the belief in “the one true god.”
You continue by assaulting Atheistic “belief” saying “… their basis (referring to a preacher on Sunday morning) is a book, where’s your basis Pat?… Science? … Science doesn’t pertain itself to philosophy in this sense.”
Gotta stop ya there buddy. Science is based on what we as humans can hear touch taste smell and see. It’s based on our observations of reality and existence, as we know it. This lends to perceptions of reality and philosophy is based on individual perceptions of reality and how things are. The book you refer to as the basis of your beliefs is based in fantasy and legend not reality Therefore the concept of basing reality on that book, which is a work of fiction, is fundamentally flawed.
As far as your point of saying the atheists mock the believers and all the believers do is reach out with a message of love hope and peace.
Sorry man all I’ve ever experienced from believers are just the words, “peace love and hope to the entire world” with the underlying tone of if you don’t believe what I believe you’re going to go to hell. It’s a major founding pricipal of the Christian church. It may not be what the “good preachers” are advocating but it’s still the founding principal of Christianity being the “one true” path to god and heaven. So there goes you’re credibility and compassion of preaching love hope and peace to all. Now what do you have?
After that honestly i got bored countering your arguments. The rest of the video portrays you as the victim of an atheist attack saying how dare you contradict my unshakable and unquestioned faith. I think my previous point puts it out there as to why atheists feel justified in "attacking" your religion. It's an insult to humanity.
Saturday, November 15, 2008
Religulous response...
I’m making a new entry because my brother, playing devil’s advocate like he always does, made a comment on a previous entry that spawned a completely new rant. Thanks Aron, enjoy :-)
I'm not saying that if someone has faith in god they condone the actions of the crazies in their religion however we're not talking about individuals, we’re talking about full blown organized terrorism, murder, racism, and bigotry within the “rock solid walls of Gods loving arms.” And all the so called “normal rational people,” in whatever religion has produced the crazy people, seem to be able to do is look horrified, say “that’s not my faith,” and pray because they’re the “good,” religious people and they believe there’s nothing to be done because it’s not their fault and they believe in the “true,” religion, which apparently doesn’t allow them to do anything about the evil done in their God’s name. Simply lending support and legitimacy to religion to me is almost as bad as condoning the evil done in God’s name.
If the there were involved in an organization that funded helpful social programs all over the world you’d feel good about yourself right? What if, they told you were fundamentally flawed in someway and had to give money to them so that they could fix you and then told you that you should pray to fix yourself? What if, you found out that that same organization was also funding and pretty much turning a blind eye to neo-natzi activities? You’d be out of that organization and you wouldn’t even look back if you were a decent human being, right? If that organization were truly righteous and good, they’d completely separate themselves from the offending neo-natzi party and any other individual who associated with it to try to stem the tide of people leaving them, right? If this were true any other branch off of their organization to funding neo-natzis would face severe penalties and wouldn’t be able to find other funding, right…? The heads of the various religious organizations do this… right?
They condemn the offending organizations and individuals and then they… Well they tell their faithful “pray for these misguided people,” then they say “donate more money to the church so that we (by that they mean you) can help these poor misguided individuals,” and then they tell their faithful “pray for these misguided people,” then they say “donate more money to the church so that we can help these poor misguided individuals,” and then they…
I’m sorry, (not really) but the ONLY purpose of the church and religion in the 21st Century is the financial support and empowerment of clergy. They sell an invisible intangible product that can’t be measured or substantiated in anyway and they sell it by telling people that they are defective and must pay and pray in order to fix themselves. Meanwhile there’s more evil being done in God’s name than good but they don’t care as long as they’re not implicated and the money keeps rolling in. It is the only business where the customer is always wrong and the used car salesman is the good guy.
I'm not saying that if someone has faith in god they condone the actions of the crazies in their religion however we're not talking about individuals, we’re talking about full blown organized terrorism, murder, racism, and bigotry within the “rock solid walls of Gods loving arms.” And all the so called “normal rational people,” in whatever religion has produced the crazy people, seem to be able to do is look horrified, say “that’s not my faith,” and pray because they’re the “good,” religious people and they believe there’s nothing to be done because it’s not their fault and they believe in the “true,” religion, which apparently doesn’t allow them to do anything about the evil done in their God’s name. Simply lending support and legitimacy to religion to me is almost as bad as condoning the evil done in God’s name.
If the there were involved in an organization that funded helpful social programs all over the world you’d feel good about yourself right? What if, they told you were fundamentally flawed in someway and had to give money to them so that they could fix you and then told you that you should pray to fix yourself? What if, you found out that that same organization was also funding and pretty much turning a blind eye to neo-natzi activities? You’d be out of that organization and you wouldn’t even look back if you were a decent human being, right? If that organization were truly righteous and good, they’d completely separate themselves from the offending neo-natzi party and any other individual who associated with it to try to stem the tide of people leaving them, right? If this were true any other branch off of their organization to funding neo-natzis would face severe penalties and wouldn’t be able to find other funding, right…? The heads of the various religious organizations do this… right?
They condemn the offending organizations and individuals and then they… Well they tell their faithful “pray for these misguided people,” then they say “donate more money to the church so that we (by that they mean you) can help these poor misguided individuals,” and then they tell their faithful “pray for these misguided people,” then they say “donate more money to the church so that we can help these poor misguided individuals,” and then they…
I’m sorry, (not really) but the ONLY purpose of the church and religion in the 21st Century is the financial support and empowerment of clergy. They sell an invisible intangible product that can’t be measured or substantiated in anyway and they sell it by telling people that they are defective and must pay and pray in order to fix themselves. Meanwhile there’s more evil being done in God’s name than good but they don’t care as long as they’re not implicated and the money keeps rolling in. It is the only business where the customer is always wrong and the used car salesman is the good guy.
Friday, November 14, 2008
Religulous
Saw Religulous yesterday and it’s one of my new favorite movies. Loved it. Been surfing the net about it and I keep running across the same theme most anti-Religulous blogs and websites. They say that it only focused on the negative aspects of religion. One such blog stated:
“The most obvious flaw in Maher's documentary is that it's one sided. He offers many examples of religion that's extreme, dishonest, hypocritical, or anti-freedom. It's an often-funny visual tour of bombs exploding and charlatans peddling faith-based snake-oil. In fact, most believers would agree with many of Maher's attacks. The problem is his conclusion that flim-flam artists and jihadists represent the totality of religion.” http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/10/religulous-bill-maher-ignores.html#post
I'd have to say that the main focus of Religulous WASN'T the just the “extreme, dishonest, hypocritical, or anti-freedom,” people in a religion but all people who practice a faith no matter the faith or "faith level." People give legitimacy to the acts of any and all others of that faith simply by practicing it themselves. If a person were part of an organization that has in the past and is still party to and causing as much pain, suffering, bigotry, racism, and death in the world as religion there would be no way a decent rational person would have anything to do with it at all. And yet Christians Muslims and Jews can sit in their respective halls of WARship and continue to lend support and legitimacy to their faiths regardless of what's done in its name. They say things like, "Oh, that's not my faith," or "But i don't believe what they believe and i don't support them," sorry but that’s as naive as a mafia wife of 30 years saying, "I had no idea my husband was a mobster." and then looking incensed (not upset) when it's proven that he is. If you do believe and go to that place of warship and lend support to those institutions, you are party to the acts of everyone practicing that faith.
The movie in my mind was a call to ALL people to use their ability to THINK and realize that religion is evil, there is more good in the world without it than with it, and it must be demystified and removed from humanity's soul in order for mankind to survive it’s own nature. Faith is not a good thing: Faith (in the improvable, i.e. God, religion, etc.) is the surrender of the only thing that separates human beings from animals. The only way for religion to survive is to try (and it is desperately trying) to pull a bag over humanity’s head and say in a big scary voice, “IT’S FOR YOUR OWN PROTECTION!” Religion cannot, and will never be able to, endure in the light of a world governed by reason and logic.
“The most obvious flaw in Maher's documentary is that it's one sided. He offers many examples of religion that's extreme, dishonest, hypocritical, or anti-freedom. It's an often-funny visual tour of bombs exploding and charlatans peddling faith-based snake-oil. In fact, most believers would agree with many of Maher's attacks. The problem is his conclusion that flim-flam artists and jihadists represent the totality of religion.” http://blog.beliefnet.com/stevenwaldman/2008/10/religulous-bill-maher-ignores.html#post
I'd have to say that the main focus of Religulous WASN'T the just the “extreme, dishonest, hypocritical, or anti-freedom,” people in a religion but all people who practice a faith no matter the faith or "faith level." People give legitimacy to the acts of any and all others of that faith simply by practicing it themselves. If a person were part of an organization that has in the past and is still party to and causing as much pain, suffering, bigotry, racism, and death in the world as religion there would be no way a decent rational person would have anything to do with it at all. And yet Christians Muslims and Jews can sit in their respective halls of WARship and continue to lend support and legitimacy to their faiths regardless of what's done in its name. They say things like, "Oh, that's not my faith," or "But i don't believe what they believe and i don't support them," sorry but that’s as naive as a mafia wife of 30 years saying, "I had no idea my husband was a mobster." and then looking incensed (not upset) when it's proven that he is. If you do believe and go to that place of warship and lend support to those institutions, you are party to the acts of everyone practicing that faith.
The movie in my mind was a call to ALL people to use their ability to THINK and realize that religion is evil, there is more good in the world without it than with it, and it must be demystified and removed from humanity's soul in order for mankind to survive it’s own nature. Faith is not a good thing: Faith (in the improvable, i.e. God, religion, etc.) is the surrender of the only thing that separates human beings from animals. The only way for religion to survive is to try (and it is desperately trying) to pull a bag over humanity’s head and say in a big scary voice, “IT’S FOR YOUR OWN PROTECTION!” Religion cannot, and will never be able to, endure in the light of a world governed by reason and logic.
Tuesday, November 11, 2008
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