Short and sweet.
I'm not sure what these guys believe and intend to ask them because their videos are a little vague on that point but here's the searies of video responses we've posted so far.
I found this to be a good answer right up till the end where they lost me a little because they were so vague.
This is the 2nd video I responded with after I have had many discussions with the two of these guys over private messages.
You don't really need to watch these responses...
Especially if you've watched the previous responses. Same'ol shit different toilet.
You can figure out what's in these videos by watching my responses...
Boring...
But i'll humor them...
My last response to the guys who aren't called but who called themselves theprodigy.
Monday, March 30, 2009
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Hey, this is "poorkinghaggard" from Youtube!
Just wanted to step-in and possibly correct you, so you can be more prepared to deal with these kinds of people. I am not defending their position, so please dont mistake me.
Out-of-body experiences and near-death experiences are not all hallucinations, and all of them can not be, whether or not there is something non-local happening. There are at least two really good experiments that demonstrate evidence that supports subjective claims, especially one article published by the Lancet on how anoxia can not account for all the things near-death people see. I'm using a specific definition of hallucination, so please correct me if you mean something more general.
All the parapsychology studies I know do not support drugs or hallucinations to be particularly productive (except ketamine during informal experiments, incidentally). The boys' claim that these things somehow support the claims that we can have outer-body experiences is unfounded, even by research that investigates those claims.
The thing with quantum physics was interesting. I been fascinated by that--I would say that could be interpreted as a reason to believe in something non-local happening, but it's still a long stretch from supporting an afterlife. Physics does not dismiss the idea of other "dimensions" (which is the wrong word for it), but from what I been told by people in the field, that's all still conceptual.
I did mean hallucination as a general term for an altered state of consciousness that leads to an experience something that only exists subjectively that does not "jive" with the real world.
Thanks for the information on anoxia but that doesn't mean that a near-death experience of seeing an angel is any more real than if anoxia could account for the experience. It just means that anoxia doesn't account for everything so there must be another factor involved in near-death experiences.
I've always loved explaining the double slit experiment to people. It's amazing to see their reactions face to face. It's almost enough to have people loose a piece of their minds. ;-P
Congratulations by the way. You're the first person to leave a comment on a post that found me on YouTube. :-)
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